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		<title>Comment on Q&amp;A &#8211; Conversations by admin</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 01:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Emma,
First, my apologies for not getting back to you sooner.  A family emergency has required a lot of time and adjustment.  I&#039;m catching up.

Second, wonderful to hear from another God-fearing believer!  The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.

Now, your horse.  Your instinct is correct, the horse that has trouble getting the hindquarters underneath can have more than one problem.  Horses can have physical issues and mental issues, and obviously the two can intertwine.  It&#039;s difficult for me to offer too much specific advice, without seeing the horse and rider in person.  However, I will try.  I&#039;m going to ask a few questions, in an effort to be helpful.

Has this horse been in traditional dressage training?  
Is this horse well balanced in conformation? 
Is he well balanced moving at liberty in all three gaits?  
At liberty, does this horse rush forward?  When?
Can this horse be ridden on a loose rein? In all three gaits?  If not, what happens?
At the walk, can the horse move from walking forward to backing, without stopping?

That&#039;s probably enough for us to start a conversation.

In general, with horses that are having trouble, it works best for me if I simplify and break it down for the horse, going back to something basic.  For example: walking forward, on a loose rein, then with contact, and again, releasing the horse to walk again on a loose rein. I try to hone in on the horse&#039;s response to each transition.  Going from a loose rein and contact is also a transistion, underestimated by many riders.  That may sound terribly basic, but there&#039;s no sense practicing something faster that isn&#039;t working.  If contact is understood by the horse at the walk, I will add in backing (at the walk).  I will increase the difficulty, moving on (for instance, up to walk/trot transistions) until I find the spot where the trouble creeps in.  It&#039;s usually much earlier (at a simpler level), than I think.

If you are willing to try that, let me know how it goes.  We can discuss it. I&#039;m honored you trusted me enough to ask. 

Thank you for writing,
Betty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Emma,<br />
First, my apologies for not getting back to you sooner.  A family emergency has required a lot of time and adjustment.  I&#8217;m catching up.</p>
<p>Second, wonderful to hear from another God-fearing believer!  The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.</p>
<p>Now, your horse.  Your instinct is correct, the horse that has trouble getting the hindquarters underneath can have more than one problem.  Horses can have physical issues and mental issues, and obviously the two can intertwine.  It&#8217;s difficult for me to offer too much specific advice, without seeing the horse and rider in person.  However, I will try.  I&#8217;m going to ask a few questions, in an effort to be helpful.</p>
<p>Has this horse been in traditional dressage training?<br />
Is this horse well balanced in conformation?<br />
Is he well balanced moving at liberty in all three gaits?<br />
At liberty, does this horse rush forward?  When?<br />
Can this horse be ridden on a loose rein? In all three gaits?  If not, what happens?<br />
At the walk, can the horse move from walking forward to backing, without stopping?</p>
<p>That&#8217;s probably enough for us to start a conversation.</p>
<p>In general, with horses that are having trouble, it works best for me if I simplify and break it down for the horse, going back to something basic.  For example: walking forward, on a loose rein, then with contact, and again, releasing the horse to walk again on a loose rein. I try to hone in on the horse&#8217;s response to each transition.  Going from a loose rein and contact is also a transistion, underestimated by many riders.  That may sound terribly basic, but there&#8217;s no sense practicing something faster that isn&#8217;t working.  If contact is understood by the horse at the walk, I will add in backing (at the walk).  I will increase the difficulty, moving on (for instance, up to walk/trot transistions) until I find the spot where the trouble creeps in.  It&#8217;s usually much earlier (at a simpler level), than I think.</p>
<p>If you are willing to try that, let me know how it goes.  We can discuss it. I&#8217;m honored you trusted me enough to ask. </p>
<p>Thank you for writing,<br />
Betty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wardrobe with What Purpose? by admin</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-5781</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 00:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Cassie,
Bravo for caring enough about your horse to look for an answer!  

Once a horse starts grinding their teeth, it takes patience to solve.  Some horses will even grind their teeth when standing still.  These may be the easiest horses to help.  There is a method, where the rider (sitting in the saddle) runs their fingers up the horse&#039;s windpipe (against the grain of the hair, on both sides).  Use enough pressure to get the horse&#039;s attention, but not so much pressure to be painful.  When the horse focuses on the rider&#039;s fingers (on the windpipe), the horse&#039;s mouth will become quiet.  Release.  This can reach the point that simply laying the rider&#039;s fingers on the horse&#039;s neck signals the horse to be quiet.  It truly works.

The other issue may be that the horse doesn&#039;t understand that the bit means to move her feet (not her teeth).  Check this out.  Reach for one side of the bit, hold with enough pressure to encourage the horse to move (uncomfortable to stand there and ignore the rider).  When the horse moves a foot, any foot, release.  The horse will get the idea that moving the feet, not the teeth brings a release from pressure.  

You may also have to take the caveson off, entirely.  Some horses expect trouble, as long as they feel the caveson around their face.  

Those are a couple of my first ideas.  Let me know how it goes, Cassie.
-Betty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Cassie,<br />
Bravo for caring enough about your horse to look for an answer!  </p>
<p>Once a horse starts grinding their teeth, it takes patience to solve.  Some horses will even grind their teeth when standing still.  These may be the easiest horses to help.  There is a method, where the rider (sitting in the saddle) runs their fingers up the horse&#8217;s windpipe (against the grain of the hair, on both sides).  Use enough pressure to get the horse&#8217;s attention, but not so much pressure to be painful.  When the horse focuses on the rider&#8217;s fingers (on the windpipe), the horse&#8217;s mouth will become quiet.  Release.  This can reach the point that simply laying the rider&#8217;s fingers on the horse&#8217;s neck signals the horse to be quiet.  It truly works.</p>
<p>The other issue may be that the horse doesn&#8217;t understand that the bit means to move her feet (not her teeth).  Check this out.  Reach for one side of the bit, hold with enough pressure to encourage the horse to move (uncomfortable to stand there and ignore the rider).  When the horse moves a foot, any foot, release.  The horse will get the idea that moving the feet, not the teeth brings a release from pressure.  </p>
<p>You may also have to take the caveson off, entirely.  Some horses expect trouble, as long as they feel the caveson around their face.  </p>
<p>Those are a couple of my first ideas.  Let me know how it goes, Cassie.<br />
-Betty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wardrobe with What Purpose? by Cassie Black</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=51&#038;cpage=1#comment-5564</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassie Black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am excited to see this discussion. First of all I would like to say THANK YOU Betty for showing another way for Dressage riders. I have been struggling through &quot;Classical Dressage&quot; with a very difficult horse for several years. The Push/Pull method made her leap through the air trying to get away from the pressure that I was building from behind but not allowing out in front. 

I have gone from riding with a very tight cavesson and drop noseband to no drop and a loose cavesson. She is still opening her mouth and grinding her teeth when I pick up on the bit (even just to take a soft feel) Do you have any suggestions?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am excited to see this discussion. First of all I would like to say THANK YOU Betty for showing another way for Dressage riders. I have been struggling through &#8220;Classical Dressage&#8221; with a very difficult horse for several years. The Push/Pull method made her leap through the air trying to get away from the pressure that I was building from behind but not allowing out in front. </p>
<p>I have gone from riding with a very tight cavesson and drop noseband to no drop and a loose cavesson. She is still opening her mouth and grinding her teeth when I pick up on the bit (even just to take a soft feel) Do you have any suggestions?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Buck&#8217;s clinic at Staley Homestead by admin</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=359&#038;cpage=1#comment-5307</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 17:23:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Lindsay,
Yes, our physical address 55 Bell Horse Trail, Sheridan, Montana is the location for Buck&#039;s July clinic.  Hope you can come and watch.  
-Betty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Lindsay,<br />
Yes, our physical address 55 Bell Horse Trail, Sheridan, Montana is the location for Buck&#8217;s July clinic.  Hope you can come and watch.<br />
-Betty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Wardrobe with What Purpose? by Kathryn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kathryn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 19:54:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t show in a flash noseband at all, just the cevsason, worn quite loose or as  decoration . Axel said that was fine as long as it doesn&#039;t flop around, which would be distracting. I can&#039;t stand seeing horses with their mouths cranked shut. Even without the flash, the cevsason can be so tight that they can&#039;t really open their mouth. You are right about all of the tack aberrations really just being a way to bend the horse&#039;s will to ours. I think if everyone had the opportunity to ride in a hackamore, they would understand how much we rely on gadgets! I know I did. Now I ride as if I was in the hackamore, relying more on seat, leg, and feel rather than my hands. It was eye-opening to feel all my  faults  in the hackamore. And highly instructive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t show in a flash noseband at all, just the cevsason, worn quite loose or as  decoration . Axel said that was fine as long as it doesn&#8217;t flop around, which would be distracting. I can&#8217;t stand seeing horses with their mouths cranked shut. Even without the flash, the cevsason can be so tight that they can&#8217;t really open their mouth. You are right about all of the tack aberrations really just being a way to bend the horse&#8217;s will to ours. I think if everyone had the opportunity to ride in a hackamore, they would understand how much we rely on gadgets! I know I did. Now I ride as if I was in the hackamore, relying more on seat, leg, and feel rather than my hands. It was eye-opening to feel all my  faults  in the hackamore. And highly instructive.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Buck&#8217;s clinic at Staley Homestead by lindsay stahlberg</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=359&#038;cpage=1#comment-5289</link>
		<dc:creator>lindsay stahlberg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 10:14:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! I was just wondering if your address is the one where buck will be at in july 2013? Sorry for the weird question but I&#039;ll be coming from minnesota haha want to make sure way in advance I get the direction right.. thank you for your help and having buck be there, look forward to seeing y&#039;all there!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! I was just wondering if your address is the one where buck will be at in july 2013? Sorry for the weird question but I&#8217;ll be coming from minnesota haha want to make sure way in advance I get the direction right.. thank you for your help and having buck be there, look forward to seeing y&#8217;all there!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Emulating Ray (part two) by admin</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=539&#038;cpage=1#comment-5124</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Dec 2012 00:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Joy,
Glad to hear you are using &quot;one step.&quot;  You&#039;ve set up an interesting project for yourself, using a foot rope to introduce piaffe.  Let me know how that goes.  I&#039;m more inclined to work on this at liberty.   

My cue for piaffe is more feel, than cue.  With my mind and my body, I feel through the horse all the way to their feet (which are &quot;my feet&quot; according to Ray Hunt).  I ask for trot through my body posture and by taking up the trot rhythm.  This is subtle.  Almost simultaneously, I ask the horse to trot and &quot;wait.&quot;   The greener the horse, the more forward and/or sideways, I allow the horse to move.  This gives the horse a place to go and prevents the horse from feeling trapped. It&#039;s useful for me to think about using my own body and the horse&#039;s body as one unit.  On your own feet, think about the difference between jogging forward, jogging backward, and jogging in place.  The horse has the same ability.  They can trot (jog) forward.  That&#039;s obvious.  Backing is also a trot (synchronized, diagonal leg movement backward).  Traditionally, piaffe is considered a forward move.  That&#039;s where half steps come in.  However, the goal is trotting on the spot.  Have fun!
-Betty  

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Joy,<br />
Glad to hear you are using &#8220;one step.&#8221;  You&#8217;ve set up an interesting project for yourself, using a foot rope to introduce piaffe.  Let me know how that goes.  I&#8217;m more inclined to work on this at liberty.   </p>
<p>My cue for piaffe is more feel, than cue.  With my mind and my body, I feel through the horse all the way to their feet (which are &#8220;my feet&#8221; according to Ray Hunt).  I ask for trot through my body posture and by taking up the trot rhythm.  This is subtle.  Almost simultaneously, I ask the horse to trot and &#8220;wait.&#8221;   The greener the horse, the more forward and/or sideways, I allow the horse to move.  This gives the horse a place to go and prevents the horse from feeling trapped. It&#8217;s useful for me to think about using my own body and the horse&#8217;s body as one unit.  On your own feet, think about the difference between jogging forward, jogging backward, and jogging in place.  The horse has the same ability.  They can trot (jog) forward.  That&#8217;s obvious.  Backing is also a trot (synchronized, diagonal leg movement backward).  Traditionally, piaffe is considered a forward move.  That&#8217;s where half steps come in.  However, the goal is trotting on the spot.  Have fun!<br />
-Betty  </p>
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		<title>Comment on Emulating Ray (part two) by Joy Nichols</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=539&#038;cpage=1#comment-4969</link>
		<dc:creator>Joy Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for your reply. I have been asking for one step at a time from my horse. It is handy to have him do this. I will try to have him take a half step. He will let me rope his foot so I will try it from the ground first.  How do you cue Jemima for half step?  Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for your reply. I have been asking for one step at a time from my horse. It is handy to have him do this. I will try to have him take a half step. He will let me rope his foot so I will try it from the ground first.  How do you cue Jemima for half step?  Thank you.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Emulating Ray (part two) by admin</title>
		<link>http://bettystaley.com/blog/?p=539&#038;cpage=1#comment-4966</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 17:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, Joy.
Thank you for writing.   You asked about &quot;Tom&#039;s simple way of getting piaffe&quot; (a reference to an earlier comment made by Emma Kline).  Simplified, Tom&#039;s philosophy is about &quot;getting to the horse&#039;s feet.&quot;  As riders, we tend to view this advice metaphorically.  However, Ray Hunt would demonstrate the reality by roping his horse&#039;s feet, while he was riding in the saddle on that horse.   Ray would then direct/lead his horse by the lariat on the foot, not the rein.  It was a graphic demonstration.   

Simplified, piaffe is a trot in place.  When the horse understands that the rein is attached to the feet, to move forward or back at the rider&#039;s direction, the rider can ask the horse to put out more effort, to trot, while waiting on the rider (staying in place).   There is a short demo of a young horse learning to piaffe on the previous video (Emulating Ray, part one).  At the end of that video, Jemima is taking half steps, a precursor to piaffe.   Like so many movements, piaffe is taught in a progressive fashion.  However, horses can learn the concept, very early in their education.  In fact, as opposed to today&#039;s dressage show definition which makes piaffe a climax of training, piaffe is a training tool.

My explanation may be elusive.  I&#039;m happy to talk about it more.
-Betty</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, Joy.<br />
Thank you for writing.   You asked about &#8220;Tom&#8217;s simple way of getting piaffe&#8221; (a reference to an earlier comment made by Emma Kline).  Simplified, Tom&#8217;s philosophy is about &#8220;getting to the horse&#8217;s feet.&#8221;  As riders, we tend to view this advice metaphorically.  However, Ray Hunt would demonstrate the reality by roping his horse&#8217;s feet, while he was riding in the saddle on that horse.   Ray would then direct/lead his horse by the lariat on the foot, not the rein.  It was a graphic demonstration.   </p>
<p>Simplified, piaffe is a trot in place.  When the horse understands that the rein is attached to the feet, to move forward or back at the rider&#8217;s direction, the rider can ask the horse to put out more effort, to trot, while waiting on the rider (staying in place).   There is a short demo of a young horse learning to piaffe on the previous video (Emulating Ray, part one).  At the end of that video, Jemima is taking half steps, a precursor to piaffe.   Like so many movements, piaffe is taught in a progressive fashion.  However, horses can learn the concept, very early in their education.  In fact, as opposed to today&#8217;s dressage show definition which makes piaffe a climax of training, piaffe is a training tool.</p>
<p>My explanation may be elusive.  I&#8217;m happy to talk about it more.<br />
-Betty</p>
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		<title>Comment on Emulating Ray (part two) by Joy Nichols</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joy Nichols</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 22:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent blog! I was wondering what is Toms simple way of getting piaffe? Thank you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent blog! I was wondering what is Toms simple way of getting piaffe? Thank you.</p>
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